Alex just PMed me a convo that he has with Tucker. I am pretty shocked at how rude Tucker was towards a potential juror:
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Troyan X Warrior (11:19:02): hey, thanks rob
just tru fax (11:19:13): Glad to be home?
Troyan X Warrior (11:19:53): eh... i was having tons of fun over there but yeah i guess a part of me is glad
just tru fax (11:20:16): Well its good to have you back man (:
Troyan X Warrior (11:20:31): thanks!!! what were you up to this week?
just tru fax (11:20:58): same old mate, job hunting
just tru fax (11:21:04): preparing for my youth worker job
Troyan X Warrior (11:21:15): omg did you get it?
just tru fax (11:21:28): fingers crossed
Troyan X Warrior (11:22:10): ill cross mine too
just tru fax (11:22:47): thanks man.
Troyan X Warrior (11:23:30): soooo what has been happening in the game, i need a huge update
just tru fax (11:23:44): Got a spare few hours?
Troyan X Warrior (11:24:07): lmao sure do
just tru fax (11:24:36): this is just my perception on things so dont take it as gospel truth
Troyan X Warrior (11:25:08): sure
just tru fax (11:25:17): well you read up on jeffrey's thread
Troyan X Warrior (11:25:33): yeah i did
Troyan X Warrior (11:25:39): but i still found it rather confusing
just tru fax (11:25:44): He was calling out Lorii, Evan and Joey
just tru fax (11:25:50): And praising me & you
Troyan X Warrior (11:26:12): well, we are praisable tbh
just tru fax (11:26:18): Thats a given lol
just tru fax (11:26:43): But anyway no one really talks about it until the immunity challenge last night
just tru fax (11:27:27): lorii wins and jeffrey begins arguing with joey, then evan, then lorii
just tru fax (11:27:28): then me
Troyan X Warrior (11:27:39): you? uh oh
just tru fax (11:27:49): jeffrey was making personal attacks and kept saying that he was going to survive this rounds vote
just tru fax (11:28:25): so we asked him how he could do such a thing when he is the target and there are four votes going his way
just tru fax (11:29:24): so evan asked jeffrey if he was going to make alex quit to survive this round
just tru fax (11:29:28): and he said yes
Troyan X Warrior (11:30:00): oh man
just tru fax (11:30:23): He was saying that you'd take the bullet for his survival
just tru fax (11:30:30): (And I have a screencap if you want to see)
Troyan X Warrior (11:31:02): nah, i trust you
just tru fax (11:31:06): So I tell Corey about Jeffreys plan.
just tru fax (11:31:25): And Corey said that if Jeffrey antagonises (bullies/harasses you into leaving) then he'll be punished
Troyan X Warrior (11:31:34): oh snap
just tru fax (11:31:47): So when Jeffrey was told this
just tru fax (11:32:00): He sent a PM out to Joey which he sent to me and Lorii
just tru fax (11:32:07): Basically apologising for all his wrongdoings
Troyan X Warrior (11:33:37): thats interesting
just tru fax (11:34:06): So this is what is occuring
just tru fax (11:34:11): You aint getting voted out mate.
just tru fax (11:34:16): My word is my bond
Troyan X Warrior (11:34:22): thanks rob
Troyan X Warrior (11:34:27): but im fucked the next round, eh?
just tru fax (11:34:43): I wont lie man.
just tru fax (11:34:46): Theres a chance.
Troyan X Warrior (11:34:59): i know you wont lie
just tru fax (11:35:45): Sorry man
just tru fax (11:36:00): I wish you the best of luck with the next immunity
Troyan X Warrior (11:36:28): its okay, i wont go out without fighting, now that im here to fight
Troyan X Warrior (11:36:35): what if i offer you a deal?
just tru fax (11:37:31): what deal?
Troyan X Warrior (11:37:51): you take me to the final 3 and i vote for you in the f2 regardless who you are up against
just tru fax (11:38:32): I dont think I'll make it past final four man.
Troyan X Warrior (11:38:44): how so?
Troyan X Warrior (11:38:47): theres your deal with lorii
Troyan X Warrior (11:38:51): and im sure you have one with evan
Troyan X Warrior (11:39:01): and isnt this all about fighting to stay alive?
just tru fax (11:39:18): i'm aligned with Lorii, Evan and Joey.
Troyan X Warrior (11:40:07): and inside the allinace you have smaller alliances, thats the way things go
just tru fax (11:40:34): I dont, thats why I'm making top 4.
Troyan X Warrior (11:40:53): well, i want you to win, obviously
Troyan X Warrior (11:41:01): so im willing to help you if you help me
Troyan X Warrior (11:41:22): i just feel you are surrendering to getting f4
just tru fax (11:41:46): I aint surrendering, I'm fighting til the end
just tru fax (11:42:06): But if you had a deal with 4/6 of the tribe you wouldnt be looking elsewhere
Troyan X Warrior (11:42:30): actually, i would be, especially if i know that im out fourth
just tru fax (11:42:45): I dont know I'm 4th.
just tru fax (11:42:50): I'm assuming I'm 4th
Troyan X Warrior (11:42:57): and you are willing to risk it?
just tru fax (11:43:07): Yep.
Troyan X Warrior (11:43:27): ah
Troyan X Warrior (11:43:48): oh well, guess ill go see if someone else is greedier
just tru fax (11:43:59): no one will move
just tru fax (11:44:05): you need at least 2 people to join you
Troyan X Warrior (11:44:28): we shall see, honestly, im not gonna stop trying cause you assume they wont move
Troyan X Warrior (11:44:34): greed is a huge thing in survivor
just tru fax (11:45:27): Only when you're in power
Troyan X Warrior (11:45:44): you guys are in power
just tru fax (11:45:53): Yep, and we're not greedy.
Troyan X Warrior (11:46:09): you talk so in general, as if you knew what they are thinking
just tru fax (11:47:01): Well since we've had this alliance since Day 18 I'm confident.
Troyan X Warrior (11:47:11): but it was hidden for most of the game
just tru fax (11:47:26): I know
just tru fax (11:47:51): Just because others dont know about an alliance except the people in it doesnt make it full of deceitful players
Troyan X Warrior (11:48:21): thats not what i was saying
Troyan X Warrior (11:49:05): but not because you guys had it since day 18 means one of you isnt greedy enough to take me on some deals, it doesnt hurt for me to try, trust me, when you get down to the nitty gritty someone always thinks further ahead "who can i beat?" "who would vote for me?"
just tru fax (11:49:37): the greedy alliance member got voted off.
Troyan X Warrior (11:50:04):
just tru fax (11:50:30): that was RB
just tru fax (11:51:05): the game would've been shades different and predictable without this alliance in check.
just tru fax (11:51:24): I know 1,000,000% that everyone will turn you down
Troyan X Warrior (11:51:48): it doesnt hurt trying
just tru fax (11:52:00): its an exercise in wasting time.
Troyan X Warrior (11:52:07): i have time
Troyan X Warrior (11:52:18): and im not going down without exploring every single angle
just tru fax (12:12:41):
img.photobucket.com/albums/v23/hingedbod/proof.pngjust tru fax (12:12:59): in the red box is jeffrey admitting to getting you out through other means
just tru fax (12:13:09): IE convincing you to quit
Troyan X Warrior (12:14:10): its so small
just tru fax (12:14:25): its readable though.
Troyan X Warrior (12:14:49): kinda, not for me cause as you know my computer is all green since the color card is busted so i cant really see most color fonts
just tru fax (12:15:02): i am unaware of this
Troyan X Warrior (12:15:17): dont worry i can read what you and evan say
Troyan X Warrior (12:18:39): now i gotta decide whom to vote for
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just tru fax (12:19:02): a vote that counts, or a pointless vote
Troyan X Warrior (12:19:28): it doesnt count though, cause even if i vote for jeffrey the fact remains that im out next so it doesnt really serve any purpose
just tru fax (12:19:50): well you might as well vote for the person thats going
Troyan X Warrior (12:20:39): i dont see any purpose on that its not like it would make you guys go "ZOMG alex voted with us, lets keep him more than fifth"
just tru fax (12:21:48): well you heard it from joey, and from me
just tru fax (12:21:52): jeffrey
just tru fax (12:22:02): he was intent on sending you out the game
Troyan X Warrior (12:22:16): true. but i wont quit, i would have never quit, despite what you both might believe
Troyan X Warrior (12:22:32): i never quit for erik either
just tru fax (12:23:11): i dont think you'd quit, but if you're willing to stick with him despite his words then i dont know what to tell you
Troyan X Warrior (12:23:21): who said im sticking with him though?
Troyan X Warrior (12:23:28): ill probably vote for the person i want to win
Troyan X Warrior (12:23:35): so they dont have a 0 votes against them when they win
just tru fax (12:23:55): having 0 votes against them is considered a perfect game
Troyan X Warrior (12:24:04): i know
Troyan X Warrior (12:24:11): but it'll be nice if their only vote comes from me
just tru fax (12:24:22): well jeff will probably vote me
just tru fax (12:24:30): so vote me if you want
Troyan X Warrior (12:24:36): idk how jeffrey would vote nor do i care tbh
Troyan X Warrior (12:24:41): im just voting my way this round
Troyan X Warrior (12:24:50): voting for who i want to win
Troyan X Warrior (12:25:18): cause i dont want anyone going "zomg i deserve to win cause i have no votes against me" since i hate when people pull that shit
just tru fax (12:25:41): fair enough
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just tru fax (12:27:38): Since Joey & Evan have votes, Lorii is immune
just tru fax (12:27:48): And I got 0 votes.
Troyan X Warrior (12:27:48): oh snap, i didnt remember the immunity
just tru fax (12:29:19): So you were gonna vote Lorii?
Troyan X Warrior (12:29:26): lol yes
Troyan X Warrior (12:29:34): guess that ruins my plans eh?¿
just tru fax (12:29:47): it ruins every plan you've laid out since the conversation began
just tru fax (12:29:56): and it proves that you're a liar.
Troyan X Warrior (12:30:34): huh? what?
Troyan X Warrior (12:31:06): i havent been lying, thank you very much, i didnt remember lorii had immunity
just tru fax (12:31:30): but you also said that if someone took you into the f3 that you would vote them if that person made finals
just tru fax (12:31:38): so if they took lorii, you'd vote her
Troyan X Warrior (12:31:45): um no
just tru fax (12:31:47): because you'd vote for the person you want to win
Troyan X Warrior (12:31:49): if someone takes ym deal ill vote for them
Troyan X Warrior (12:31:58): but since no one has taken my deal
Troyan X Warrior (12:32:01): right now ill vote lorii to win
Troyan X Warrior (12:32:04): how is that lying?
just tru fax (12:32:23): because that cancels out your plan
Troyan X Warrior (12:32:32): im confused
Troyan X Warrior (12:32:37): i dont understand how im lying
Troyan X Warrior (12:32:48): if someone takes my deal then i vote for them to win if they get me to f3
Troyan X Warrior (12:32:55): if no one does im voting lorii to win
just tru fax (12:33:23): so if it was you, lorii and someone else in the final 3 and you got the boot
just tru fax (12:33:41): you'd vote the person that voted you off instead of choosing your ideal pick to win?
just tru fax (12:33:45): i dont think so
Troyan X Warrior (12:33:55): well, you dont know me that well, but yes i will
Troyan X Warrior (12:34:02): all im asking is final 3
Troyan X Warrior (12:34:07): i am not someone who holds grudges
Troyan X Warrior (12:34:13): i vote for whoever i feel played the best game
Troyan X Warrior (12:34:22): even if they fucked me over and called me an asshole
Troyan X Warrior (12:34:40): i dont care, i want there to be a good winner, but if i give someone my word im voting for them against anyone, that stands
just tru fax (12:34:59): Well I said to you I'm not gonna lie, but if you think you can convince someone to vote with you then its a failed effort.
just tru fax (12:35:13): I'm not budging, Joey wont, Evan wont, Lorii wont.
just tru fax (12:35:43): And if you cant see that then I doubt you ever will.
Troyan X Warrior (12:35:57): im not gonna stop trying rob, that would be stupid, id rather be turned down than stay here and do nothing until my number is called
just tru fax (12:36:25): so instead of just going "well theres always immunity" you're going to harass evan and lorii
just tru fax (12:36:28): who wont budge
Troyan X Warrior (12:36:38): yeah
just tru fax (12:36:38): when you've got 2 rejections out of 4 so far
Troyan X Warrior (12:36:42): yup
just tru fax (12:36:49): well then you're a terrible player.
Troyan X Warrior (12:36:58): lmao oh god
Troyan X Warrior (12:37:09): so because im trying im a terrible player?
Troyan X Warrior (12:37:15): you dont know what they think
just tru fax (12:37:19): because you cant face fact.
Troyan X Warrior (12:37:28): i know i have close to no chances
Troyan X Warrior (12:37:33): but the fact is, i suck at immunities
Troyan X Warrior (12:37:39): so striking a deal is my only chance
just tru fax (12:37:46): so when you get 4 rejections
just tru fax (12:37:47): what then
Troyan X Warrior (12:37:51): ill keep trying
Troyan X Warrior (12:37:53): i dont care
Troyan X Warrior (12:37:57): im going out either way
Troyan X Warrior (12:38:03): it doesnt hurt to try
just tru fax (12:38:13): its annoying
Troyan X Warrior (12:38:20): and if you cant see that, then you are the terrible player, laying down and not doing shit its being a shitty player
Troyan X Warrior (12:38:33): too bad, i have nothing to loose by annoying people, do i?
just tru fax (12:38:37): Yes because I'm a terrible player for not... STATING THE OBVIOUS
just tru fax (12:38:49): you will not sway anybody
just tru fax (12:39:07): you know this
Troyan X Warrior (12:39:08): too bad
just tru fax (12:39:13): yet you'll continue to beg
just tru fax (12:39:18): and no one will take a beggar
just tru fax (12:39:45): the four of us have worked too long and too hard for someone to try and join in a minority alliance
just tru fax (12:39:50): that puts a target on their back
Troyan X Warrior (12:40:18): im sorry but you are being incredibly condescending
just tru fax (12:40:24): you're blinded by your optimism
just tru fax (12:40:41): you are fully aware that no one will vote with you
Troyan X Warrior (12:40:46): what optimism?
just tru fax (12:40:56): the optimism that you'll make f3
Troyan X Warrior (12:41:05): im just trying my ass off and not because you tell me i wont sway anyone would i stop
Troyan X Warrior (12:41:34): because either you are trying to talk me out of it cause you are afraid someone would sway or you are an incredibly cocky and mean person
just tru fax (12:41:36): So after four out of five people say no, you're going to keep asking?
Troyan X Warrior (12:41:47): yes
just tru fax (12:41:51): Pitiful
Troyan X Warrior (12:42:04): so whats with the new rude attitude eh?
just tru fax (12:42:05): Why dont you just try for immunity?
Troyan X Warrior (12:42:12): i am gonna try, obviously
Troyan X Warrior (12:42:21): but i am way bad at challenges, in case you havent noticed
just tru fax (12:42:26): But I told you I aint gonna hold no punches.
just tru fax (12:42:33): What you're doing is stupid.
Troyan X Warrior (12:42:48): well, im glad you think so
Troyan X Warrior (12:43:00): im also glad i dont care if you think so
just tru fax (12:43:15): If no one budges and you remain persistent then people will grow tired of it and will start ignoring you
Troyan X Warrior (12:43:37): so?
Troyan X Warrior (12:43:43): i have nothing to loose
Troyan X Warrior (12:43:46): you said it already
just tru fax (12:43:51): so i dont see how you can benefit from your attempt
Troyan X Warrior (12:44:00): i dont see how i can make it worse
just tru fax (12:44:05): you will
just tru fax (12:44:08): by being persistent
just tru fax (12:44:11): NO means NO
just tru fax (12:44:14): not MAYBE
just tru fax (12:44:19): not POSSIBLY
Troyan X Warrior (12:44:23): i cant get more fucked over
Troyan X Warrior (12:44:26): im out fifth
Troyan X Warrior (12:44:34): so if i leave and i annoy the shit out of you, thats not so bad
just tru fax (12:44:42): Its not annoying
just tru fax (12:44:51): I genuinely feel sorry for your attempts
just tru fax (12:45:01): Just work hard at the immunity challenge
Troyan X Warrior (12:45:23): i will
Troyan X Warrior (12:45:26): but im also gonna try
Troyan X Warrior (12:45:32): and i reaaaally dont care if you think its stupid
Troyan X Warrior (12:45:47): the fact you are so insiting about it means theres something there
just tru fax (12:46:01): whats the something?
just tru fax (12:46:04): the truth?
Troyan X Warrior (12:46:10): omg you are right
Troyan X Warrior (12:46:12): ive seen the light
just tru fax (12:46:25): /sarcasm
Troyan X Warrior (12:47:09):
Troyan X Warrior (12:47:54): you know im not gonna desist, so you might as well stop it since you are making me think you are kind of douchy
just tru fax (12:48:12): im saving you the trouble mate.
just tru fax (12:48:40): no one will join a minority alliance
just tru fax (12:48:52): or attach you to a sub alliance
Troyan X Warrior (12:49:34): unless you control all of their brains you cant possibly know that
just tru fax (12:49:34): Five of us aligned on day 18 and we promised to stick together, when someone got greedy they left.
just tru fax (12:50:04): I know it because we're aligned and we trust one another.
just tru fax (12:50:11): Just stop the horseshit mate.
Troyan X Warrior (12:50:12): thats cute
Troyan X Warrior (12:50:17): but i wont stop
just tru fax (12:50:17): Seriously
Troyan X Warrior (12:50:25): cause i am out next
Troyan X Warrior (12:50:30): so i dont see a reason to stop
just tru fax (12:50:40): Win immunity
Troyan X Warrior (12:50:41): and the more you tell me not to the more i wanna try
just tru fax (12:50:56): ok
just tru fax (12:51:09): Go ahead and throw yourself out to Evan and Lorii who wont budge
just tru fax (12:51:20): Because right now you're acting like Jeffrey
Troyan X Warrior (12:51:20): will do, thanks for giving me permission
Troyan X Warrior (12:51:49): im not acting like jeffrey, im just telling you i wont stop trying, unlike jeffrey im not throwing people under the bus or all that shit
just tru fax (12:52:06): You wont stop trying despite the fact that everyone will turn you down
just tru fax (12:52:16): And no matter what you'll always get a no?
Troyan X Warrior (12:52:18): when they turn me down i might stop
Troyan X Warrior (12:52:24): they havent yet , so
just tru fax (12:52:28): Evan will say no
just tru fax (12:52:33): Because he told me
Troyan X Warrior (12:52:36): i will ask him regardless
just tru fax (12:52:55): I cant wait for this
just tru fax (12:53:05): All 4 rejections will be awesome
just tru fax (12:53:10): << Loves being right
Troyan X Warrior (12:53:28): ill make sure to let you know if you are right
just tru fax (12:53:34): but you wont
just tru fax (12:53:45): you'll get your rejections then try to make me think that someone did
Troyan X Warrior (12:53:50): oh really?
Troyan X Warrior (12:53:55): i havent thought of that actually
just tru fax (12:54:02): but remember this;
just tru fax (12:54:08): people share information
just tru fax (12:54:10): and conversations
just tru fax (12:54:23): just like your PM you sent out
Troyan X Warrior (12:54:29): *gasp* no way, i thought everything was private
just tru fax (12:54:39): *gasp* no way i thought NO meant NO
just tru fax (12:54:47): but in alexs world
just tru fax (12:54:51): it means "try again later"
Troyan X Warrior (12:55:00): yup
just tru fax (12:55:25): And if you get that yes?
just tru fax (12:55:30): What then
just tru fax (12:55:37): How do you know they're not just lying to you
Troyan X Warrior (12:55:39): ill see when i cross that bridge
Troyan X Warrior (12:55:48): false hope its better than no hope
just tru fax (12:55:49): you havent thought any of this through
just tru fax (12:56:03): When your alliance was making plans, we were 2 steps ahead
Troyan X Warrior (12:56:46): seriously?
just tru fax (12:57:02): Kirin's blindside
just tru fax (12:57:17): You thought you had Joey
Troyan X Warrior (12:57:20): mhm
just tru fax (12:57:24): We knew that would happen
just tru fax (12:57:38): because as soon as joey joined us, we aligned.
just tru fax (12:57:59): and it was all planned two rounds previous
Troyan X Warrior (12:58:03): no offense but i dont care about how you guys surged ahead, i dont really give a damn
Troyan X Warrior (12:58:11): thats in the past and i dont care
just tru fax (12:58:28): we know the next two rounds
Troyan X Warrior (12:58:40): yeah, boo hoo
just tru fax (12:58:48): so if you cant think of someone to vote for
just tru fax (12:58:51): here is a reason
just tru fax (12:58:57): YOU'RE A DUMBFUCK
just tru fax (12:59:02): vote me
Troyan X Warrior (12:59:04): *gasp*
just tru fax (12:59:06): because Evan has enough votes
Troyan X Warrior (12:59:22): ill vote for who i want to vote, as i said i dont care if you call me a dumbfuck or anything
Troyan X Warrior (12:59:42): i dont care enough about you to bring me down, oops2you
Troyan X Warrior (13:00:15): i thought you were a nice dude, obviously my opinion has changed since you are trying so hard to be a douche, it doesnt even look natural
just tru fax (13:00:42): I'm telling you like it is, I'm trying to save you the embarassment
just tru fax (13:00:46): But you wont listen
Troyan X Warrior (13:01:16): okay get this: i dont care if im embarasing myself or if im gonna get turned down like 100 times, i have nothing to loose, abaolsutely nothing
just tru fax (13:01:40): and playing the same strategy twice in back to back seasons is kinda dumb
Troyan X Warrior (13:01:50): what strategy?
just tru fax (13:02:14): play dumb on the outside and have a strategy packed journal
Troyan X Warrior (13:02:24): oh really? was i doing that?
Troyan X Warrior (13:02:46): gee, damn, i never thought anyone would be smart enough to figure it out
just tru fax (13:03:04): sarcasm again
Troyan X Warrior (13:03:31): i dont normally use sarcasm but some situations require sarcasm
just tru fax (13:04:02): blah
Troyan X Warrior (13:04:53): you are smart enough to know a good player doesnt stop trying even if someone tries and bully him out of trying especially when theres nothing to loose, you know that and i know that.
Troyan X Warrior (13:05:18): and if you read my journal then you know how i play and you know the more you bitch about it the more im gonna do it just to piss you off
just tru fax (13:05:38): a good player would find fault and exaggerate it to others and influence them that way.
just tru fax (13:05:52): a good player doesnt whine and moan to be saved
Troyan X Warrior (13:06:04): guess im not a good player then
Troyan X Warrior (13:06:09): too bad
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Joey: don't shame me for not being a whore
Olyvia: purple otters are yummy
(Alex): awww gay love <3
(Kirin) OMG i want that.
Alex: i mean erik fucks sheep and he doesnt get judged for it
Jeffrey: i dunno what the sheep have that i don't have
Alex: wool?
Jeffrey: i'll wear wool