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Post by Sandy on Aug 2, 2009 20:38:06 GMT -5
This is where Evan will post a question/statement to the Final 2.
Joey + Lorii will reply here with their answers as well.
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Post by Evan on Aug 4, 2009 22:56:05 GMT -5
I want to start off by thanking Sandy and Corey for deciding to put me in this game eventhough Sandy didn't originally want to cast me I'm glad he came around to his better senses I had a great time joining this game as a replacement and I would definately recommend your series to anybody. I also want to congratulate Lorii and Joey for making the final 2. I'm glad it came down to 2 of my allies as opposed to 2 of my enemies in the end. Although my vote is heavily leaning towards Lorii's favor, I am still undecided, because there are things both of you said in your statements that bothered me. Joey, you seem to think that you are God's gift to ORGs and Lorii, you have said repeatedly that you are extremely fake and you have no problem admitting it. That being said, I have some questions for each of you and if you do not answer them honestly you will not get my vote. Joey – Joey, I don't understand how anyone could say that they found you to be boring. I thought that you were a really interesting person and a geniune friend who cared about me but now I'm not so sure. We had some great conversations but I feel like most of them were probably an act and you were just using our friendship the whole time to help you get further in the game. You switched over to my alliance at the right time because you knew how geniune and loyal I was from the way I treated your buddy Robbie and you did manage to make all the right moves to get yourself to the end of the game which I admire. However you did some things that really pissed me off in this game and I need to know why: 1. After you won the final immunity challenge you promised you were taking me to the final 2 with you and voting out Lorii only to backstab me for no reason. Why did you do such a stupid thing? Do you not value my jury vote? You could have easily said look Ev I'm really sorry but Im voting you out I hope you understand but no you wanted to blindside me for no reason why? 2. You've made it pretty clear that you had no problem lying to and backstabbing everybody in this game except for Lorii. What is it about Lorii that is so great and what is it about the rest of us that is so shitty that you felt the need to lie and betray all of us but you could never do that to Lorii? 3. When you voted me out you told me it was because you met Lorii before me and you aligned with her earlier on in the game than you did with me. I personally think that's a really shitty reason to backstab someone and I would like to know who you think you had a better chance against in the finals me or Lorii? 4. Which juror do you believe is the least intelligent and why? 5. If you could've had your ideal plan how far would I have gotten and why? 6. Oh and I just read your bullshit answer to Alex's question. Why don't you explain to me how I played the worst out of everyone here but I managed to get to the final 3 and carry your ass all the way to end end of the game? If I didnt carry you on that final 4 immunity challenge, you would have been the one sent home instead of Tucker you ungrateful douchebag. Who the fuck are you to say I played the worst out of everyone here when I carried you all the way into the final 3 and handed you the win? 7. If I played half as shitty as you told Alex I did then what kind of a fucking idiot are you to vote me out in the final 3? It shounds like you would've had such an easy win for someone who claims to have done what needed to be done all game in order to win how do you explain this decision? I was actually planning to vote for you until I read your disingenuous bullshit answers to Alex's questions so you can go fuck yourself as far as I'm concerned. Lorii – I really enjoyed talking to you and I had no problem giving you my vote until you came out and said you are proud of being fake because if there's one thing I hate its fake people. So I have some questions for you too: 1. What is the most geniune thing you've ever said to someone on this jury? 2. What is the fakest thing you've done all game? 3. Did you tell Tucker that Joey and I had a final 2 alliance? 4. Who is the least intelligent juror and why? 5. If you could've had your ideal plan how far would I have gotten and why? Thanks and you both played a great game so good luck to both of you.
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Post by Alex on Aug 4, 2009 23:32:51 GMT -5
Nice questions Evan!
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Post by Evan on Aug 4, 2009 23:56:24 GMT -5
Thanx Alex nobody could ever top yours I have to say yours had me laughing hysterically bro!
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Post by Joey on Aug 5, 2009 0:07:39 GMT -5
1. After you won the final immunity challenge you promised you were taking me to the final 2 with you and voting out Lorii only to backstab me for no reason. Why did you do such a stupid thing? Do you not value my jury vote? You could have easily said look Ev I'm really sorry but Im voting you out I hope you understand but no you wanted to blindside me for no reason why?
I could be wrong but I don't EVER remember promising you I was going to take you to the final two, AFTER I won the final immunity challenge. I know I promised you that before I won, but I don't think I ever did after. I mean right after I won immunity, Sandy gave me THIRTY seconds to vote one of you out. I barely had enough time to cast my vote, let alone IM you and promise I was taking you.
However I did promise you BEFORE I won that I was going to take you to the final two, and that was for a very specific reason. When I tied the vote at final four, I figured you'd start to doubt me. I'm sure you did. Therefore, I had to convince you that you were still my number one, so in case YOU won the final immunity challenge you would still take me. I wanted you to feel like I didn't betray you when I voted out Tucker, because I feared you might vote me out instead of Lorii if you won final immunity. Therefore I set myself up so that in the event that ANY of the three of us won that last challenge, I would make the final two regardless.
And as I mentioned before AFTER I won I had no chance to apologize and tell you I was voting you out because I only had thirty seconds to make my decision or my immunity would be invalid. Therefore, I just braced myself for the words you'd have for me and voted you out in the limited time frame that I had.
2. You've made it pretty clear that you had no problem lying to and backstabbing everybody in this game except for Lorii. What is it about Lorii that is so great and what is it about the rest of us that is so shitty that you felt the need to lie and betray all of us but you could never do that to Lorii?
I don't think any of you are shitty people. I've never called any of you that in conversations, in my journal, or otherwise. I genuinely got along with and enjoyed the majority of the people in this game. Lorii was just someone who I connected with on a deeper level. It is nothing against the rest of you. Sometimes we just click with some people and not others. I knew I could trust Lorii, and clearly that was a good decision on my part because she never lied to me or betrayed me.
That is not to say that you would have betrayed me. I knew you were loyal to me Evan and you did play a big role in me getting where I am. I knew you had my back and were always a vote in my corner. However, my relationship with Lorii started on day one and was rock solid once Robbie was voted out. Not only that but when we all grouped up, Lorii and I were down 3-2 in numbers in our alliance, so we got even closer that way and we just stuck together, played strategically, and ended up in the final two.
3. When you voted me out you told me it was because you met Lorii before me and you aligned with her earlier on in the game than you did with me. I personally think that's a really shitty reason to backstab someone and I would like to know who you think you had a better chance against in the finals me or Lorii?
Evan you said yourself the jury hated me the most. Why they do, I'm still not sure, lol, and I'm curious to read the ponderosa threads when the game is over and done with. If I really wanted to I could have thrown the last immunity challenge and let either of you take me to the final two. However, I wanted that reassurance that I was safe. I didn't win with the intent of warming my heart by betraying you. I did it to guarantee my own position in the final two. It is true that Lorii and I were closer than I was to you, and I did feel a sense of loyalty to her that trumped my loyalty to you.
As I mentioned, you said of the final four I was least likely to win the game anyway, so does it really matter which of you I took since I was going to lose anyway. I'm honestly not sure who I had a better chance against. I took Lorii firstly because my loyalty was strongest with her.
Secondly, I took Lorii because for the most part we made the same moves and betrayed the same people. There are some things she can take credit for, and some moves I can take credit for. But the fact of the matter is the jury was essentially betrayed by both of us, so if you were going to hold something against me, you'd have to hold it against Lorii as well. The only exception to that is you, because I betrayed you and she didnt. It was a risk I was willing to take because I did not want Lorii to be my only option in the event that she got voted out and I wanted to insure I had as much protection as I could get once we reached the end of the game.
4. Which juror do you believe is the least intelligent and why?
It is hard to say. An easy answer would be Alex, because that is how he came off to many people in the game, but if that was his strategy all along than he is probably one of the most intelligent people in this game.
I kid you not I had a conversation about intelligence yesterday with my friend Jenn, and I said it was very interesting how EVERYONE in the world is smart about something. For example, her dad is as dumb as a doorknob, but he's a mechanic and a fucking genius when it comes to cars.
Just because you may not be the most intelligent person in one area, does not mean you can't be a genius in another and I think the same holds true for this game. Some people are not immunity threats, but they are SOCIAL threats. Some people are intelligent in challenges, but don't know how to interact with people. I think for the most part the final group of us all excelled in one aspect or another.
5. If you could've had your ideal plan how far would I have gotten and why? You would have been in the Final 6 or 5 for me at least. In an ideal world Robbie and Lorii would obviously be my final two people with me because I was the closest to them and trusted them 100 percent. Tucker I'd want to keep late in the game because I had so much fun getting to know him and building a friendship with him. You and RB are in a similar boat as in I felt you were both very loyal to me, but we were not as close as I was with the three mentioned above. So while Robbie and Lorii would be my top two, I'd have to say 4th thru 6th is where I would want you in my ideal plan.
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Post by Evan on Aug 5, 2009 0:54:33 GMT -5
So your ideal plan wouldve had Tucker 4th and RB 5th and me 6th?
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Post by Joey on Aug 5, 2009 0:58:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure to be honest. Robbie and Lorii would definitely be 2 and 3. I might have put you fourth, since you were probably the most loyal to me of the three of you.
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Post by Evan on Aug 5, 2009 1:02:44 GMT -5
I already Knew Robbie and Lorii were your top 2 lol. Im trying to understand why now that you've made the final 2 suddenly your entire boot order and opinions of everybody has changed it just seems odd to me.
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Post by Joey on Aug 5, 2009 1:04:03 GMT -5
Lmao, what's changed? In Alex's question I had you ranked 5th. RB 6th, Tucker 4th. and of course Robbie and Lorii as my top two.
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Post by Evan on Aug 5, 2009 1:17:14 GMT -5
In your original answer to my question you made it seem like youd have Tucker 4th because he was so interesting and then for some odd reason you put RB and I after him at 5th and 6th, eventhough you believed RB and I were more loyal to you it just doesnt make sense to me and I have a hard time believing your answers to some of these questions. You even said you put RB and I after the other 3 referring to Lorii, Robbie and Tucker. If you were really trying to win you would've wanted me to get to the final 2 because you knew the jury hated me more than Lorii and I was just as loyal to you. I feel like you don't really give a shit whether I vote for you or not as long as Lorii wins you are happy. Either that or you've just gone into these questions with the assumption I was gonna hand my vote to Lorii no matter how you guys answered the questions. Either way your answers have been disingenuous so far and its pretty disappointing to see. Also, you keep sticking to this idea that you needed to convince me that I was your #1 in order for me to vote Lorii instead of you but you know that couldnt be farther from the truth. I told you in the final 4 that Alex had convinced me Lorii was unbeatable and I was going to vote her out any chance I got regardless of who wanted to take me where she needed to go in order for any of us to have a chance to win.
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Post by Joey on Aug 5, 2009 1:29:32 GMT -5
Evan you can think whatever you want. I've answered every question with complete honesty. Just because you don't agree with who I'd want/not want in the final two with me, doesn't mean its not true.
If that were the case why would I say Robbie and Lorii as my final two. If I was REALLY trying to win votes wouldn't I choose two people who were on the jury and whose vote I was fighting for?
No, I've chosen two people who have no say in the matter. One is a pre-jury member, and one is in the final two with me.
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Post by Evan on Aug 5, 2009 1:33:08 GMT -5
I believe you're honest that Robbie and Lorii would be your top 2 I just think you are answering other questions the way you think the jurors who are more likely to vote for you want you to. To say that someone who made the final 3 after having a target on their back every single TC from day 1 played the worst game on the entire jury is just moronic and it shows how disingenuous you really are. I can only hope that Lorii answers these questions with more honesty.
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Post by Joey on Aug 5, 2009 1:37:11 GMT -5
This is exactly it. You say it is a lie because you don't like the answer to it.
I had to pick someone. Of everyone in the jury I do feel you played the worst, and I can GUARANTEE I am not the only person who believes that to be true.
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Post by Evan on Aug 5, 2009 1:39:18 GMT -5
Then you should've taken me to the Final 2 you fucking nitwit! If I didnt hand you that immunity in the final 4 you wouldve gone home so easily even Lorii would've voted your ass cuz she wouldnt have had a choice if I handed that immunity to Tucker instead of you. The only reason Tucker left instead of you is that I gave you that shit because I wanted to try to keep both you guys safe and take Lorii out of the game since she was the biggest threat to win.
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Post by Joey on Aug 5, 2009 1:41:24 GMT -5
Why would I want someone who I didn't feel deserved to win be in the final two? Thats lame.
Even if you were an easy win, which I don't think you would be, I didn't think you deserved to win. Plain and simple.
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